Try the Sig P938 If you are truly carrying for protection you dont mind the Sig Price if your life is on the line and the P938 shoots like a minature 1911 Love mine and have had several friends buy them after shooting my P938 SAS. Safe, small, and gives me some measure of security I wouldnt have without it. .380 Automatic Colt Pistol (ACP) This ammunition round was first introduced by Colt back in 1908, to use in its new Colt Model 1908, which was a compact, hammerless semi-automatic pistol. I cant count on my DB380 to run consistently, so I had to give it a low rating. They have gotten great reviews and by the serial numbers and manufacture dates on the 2 guns, their sales have gone up 4x but the QC has suffered greatly. Thats what made my wife choose a Sig P238, which I carry occasionally. I put the new glock style slide release on mine and it is a little slimmer now. Well, yes, Gigli did suck, but that wasnt known until later. From what I understand the early ones with the safety have issues compared to the later ones without a safety. I had a CPX-2, functionality and reliability i couldnt complain about. The trigger is fantastic, and reassuring in handling and holstering (leather IWB) in ways that Glock is not. This guy most definitely does not have one clue about the Pico. I normally enjoy Truth about guns. The gun design has never worked well . Both types are not recommened by the maker for the guns. I live in Utah, so in the wintertime its a very high probability that Ill be wearing some type of glove. Funny. For College Campuses! WHAT ARE THE DISADVANTAGES OF THE .380 POCKET PISTOL? Pick up a Taurus 738 tcp and it is super snappy vs the cw380. Both nice guns, the Pico is the clear winner. With pocket pistols you get so much more in terms of everything for every little uptick in size you go. until you find a way to weed out braindead haters who vote based on their idiotic and unedumacated feelings all of your results will be skewed by gun store rednecks who dont know what the word ballistic even means. check the ammo?? Had it for about 6 months now and been to the range several times. +1. Sean, I cannot find documentation of John Lott having bought reviews on Amazon. Stainless Steel receiver, chassis, guide rod, built like a tank. Votes on the best or worst of anything are all based on personal experience or having an ax to grind. He didnt even require them to be positive. Theyve reportedly improved it in newer model LCPs. This only naturally makes it more difficult to fire properly like we just talked about. I use the site SlickGuns a lot to shop for deals and they ran into the same problem with upvotes and downvotes people vote something down just because they wouldnt personally buy it makes no difference if it is a good deal, good product, etc. There are two primary uses for the LCP II: concealed carry and/or as a back-up pistol. It is light and works. Probably have about 2500 rounds through it. Otherwise, their opinion may mean nothing. I was thinking the same thing as I read this article. It smacks you hand, mostly due to the 2 finger grip. The Beretta Tomcat, though only .32, much fatter, and blowback, is a far, far superior gun. I chose. And probably never fired one. It just goes into endless redirects until your browser gives up on it. If its good Ill spread the word. He does not know how to use it. Sig without question is the "Caddilac". Its not. The SCCY is even rated for +P ammo, in modest doses, according to the company. I dont expect any pocket gun to be pleasant to shoot, but I ditched my Hellcat after experiencing multiple failures to eject two types of ammo. We even joked that we needed to start a Pocket Gun Palma match. Everything they make are just wrought with problems. 6. My son made sure I carried a SW9VE for daily use. Ruger markets the trigger as having a six pound pull. I love the Pico. I doubt he even read the directions. capacity. I posted a new post today regarding the nonsense by this author about the Pico. And I didnt enjoy shooting my G27 until I got the extended base plates with additional capacity. The Recoil spring is a one spring like almost any other. Ive seen tons of positive reviews of the CPX2. There are many more maligned pocket guns and sub-compacts on the market than these two. And the Pico will run like a sewing machine. That could happen with any gun someone didnt ,maintain and hadnt tested out at the range. It is almost a virtual impossibility to drop the mag without having to literally stop everything your doing and have to yank the thing down using 2 hands. It is a small barrel gun NOT a target gun. I have to disagree about the SCCY CPX-2. Nemesis pocket holster, and 1 spare mag, goes everyehere. Also, I dont consider the CPX-2 to be a pocket pistol, nor should it be compared to some of the little single stack fluff-pieces the articles author referenced. 6) IO Hellcat II (2.9 stars 0.6, 32 votes). But if carry options are limited to just a pocket carry for you (i.e. George have you tried a different ammo brand? But, it doesnt like to be dirty. anyone can vote on any gun whether they own or have even seen the gun in person. I would buy one if I needed another inexpensive backup carry gun. Zero malfunctions in 300 rounds including pocket lint coverings. They still fall back to the limp wrist and ammo excuses. around $219 plus S&H and ffl fees. Did anybody take the poor performing guns to a reputable gunsmith and have them tuned up? How is the pot metal Cobra #2? To start with they sat on it for 2 whole years teasing a release and it just kept getting pushed back further and further. My Cpx 2 is not 100% reliable, but I did not expect it to be for $250. And for sure never shot one. Thank-you. In contrast to this, the original LCP did not lock back on the final round. All guns I would have avoided anyway, except the Pico. And BTW, the gunsgunsguns link doesnt work. We saw your review and write up. Getting the trigger on the safety notch is something you should never goof around with. What utter nonsense! He may want to trade the SCCY with the safety in for one of the newer ones without a safety. One of the finest pocket guns out there. That would be TTAG, and a handful of others. I have pocket holsters for all but the S&W and had been carrying the XDS 45 regularly till yesterday. Worst Guns Ever Nambu: The Nambu is one of the worst pistols ever designed. Maybe if there was an () in theremaybe that might work like Tpanga or Gnai or some such name. Both have been dependable and will function without a flaw on anything I have tried. Her gun was unloaded while the thugs were not. Do you perhaps have a very early one? Beretta has been making guns for over 500 years and nice guns. I have a brand new Cobra that has never fired a shot ! Any failure rates? The number of ratings is what sold his other books. Maybe something like this? I have several pocket pistols, Just had my XDS 45 fail on me (Light primer strikes) and have another XDS in 9MM, I have a S&W Sigma 380, that works but is less pleasing than my two Ruger LCPs, Kahr, CW380, or my Colt Mustang XSP. I really wanted to like the gun. The one I had was utter shit. Aside from the problems others have mentioned, the thing is slippery as hell. But with the right technique and practice, its fine. Personally have no experience with them but it is to each his own and have heard nothing but good about these pistols. They were remarkably accurate and soft-shooting, too. I think the SCCY might be marginally better and has 2 mags. I some what question these results mainly because I own one of the guns on this list. I have no Idea how this writer came up with this Bottom Feeder nonsense. Ultra smooth shooters. Guess what? I assume the reason the CM40 sucks is similar. Great gun otherwise. Stainless steel throughout the gun. Taurus 738: Price $355.66. The sccy is a great budget pistol. Fan boys gotta fan boy, and critics gotta criticize. Ive owned a CPX 2 for about a year and we shoot every weekend. Expand your opinion to something legitimate and/or constructive with first hand knowledge. Sure just The tiny gun is lightweight, inexpensive and comfortable to carry. What good is a lifetime warranty if they dont fix it??? So they added in where if you downvote something you must list at least one reason why. It shoots all varieties of .380 ammo Ive ever run through it. I fire a couple of magazines a month thru them so as not to get too rusty . Empties wouldnt just fail to clear the slide; theyd never leave the chamber. You mean like the crowd of voters that put Obama in office twice. they do have a 200 round break in that they tell you to expect possible fails also. The Pico is one of the best firearms in its class out there period. Man this Truth about guns article really burns me up. The S&W MP EZ 380 read the reviews even on the Glock site they praise the SW MP 380 EZ And with 38 other semi-auto pocketguns to choose from, why risk it? Unfortunately, my DB380 experience has mirrored that ofmany of our peers. My Gosh folks, this is total BS, read the directions. Standing out as one of the smallest on this list, Kahr isnt a 4) Beretta Pico(4.1 stars 0.3, 134 votes), Color me shockedto see the Pico down here with the bottom feeders because Beretta is a major manufacturer that produces lots of quality firearms. In other words, its not pleasant to shot at all. He says it is a blunder. Kahr CW 380. I called the factory and was accused of limp wristing. Sorry, until you have vetted ratings, the site is nothing more than adspam. One thing that was not improved over the original LCP, however, is the sights. My God, have you really shot or even handled one? Wrong about sccy. Thanks for your post. Its very much a personal decision then, based on fit, function, and how well it shoots. like any gun it can have its issues so can the SCCY but if you really look at it, compact light and Actually the design was made so that the magazine would not pop out on firing like other small pocket guns are guilty of, use the release correctly and it is a breeze. If you have to rely on Counter Clerks for advice on firearms tells me quite a bit. I just hated the trigger. SIG P238 Why Use a .380 Pistol? I got a Glock26, and have been happy ever since! I think by nature all auto pocket pistols suck. The Mary Rosh controversy (where Lott used that pseudonym to answer critics and to post one favorable review of More Guns Less Crime) is discussed. Glad I didnt see mine. SCCY CPX-2 is a very good gun. I was glad not to see Kel Tac on the bottom list. Try posting a survey asking for votes on Glocks, for instance, and you will get a very polarized response . Those were the worst. To quote his expertise is laughable. Encountered types on the old KT forums that whines like a little girl. As a back-up weapon to a larger pistol, the LCP II would also be a great choice as it has a very similar manual of arms to larger pistols such as Glocks while also being small enough to easily conceal carry as we have just seen. The Pico is a great gun. Im guessing a .40 S&W round is just too unpleasant to shoot in this uber lightweight polymer-framed pocket gun. I have heard the PiCO may be TOO small. Take down the Pico. I would very much like to see your proof/examples. But if ultimate concealment is the need, then just accept that it will need to be .380. For that reason its got a little too much recoil and im not as accurate with it as i am with my heavier pistols chambered in 9mm and 40 caliber . Even the author of this article merely speculates, at times, as to why the readers voted as they did. The grip is also slightly enlarged in order to get a better grip, with an improved stippling job as well to better accommodate wet or slippery conditions. An odd shaped frame that in my opinion they actually went too small on trying to outdo everyone to be the king of small in 380s. The price is right, but the performance and ratings just arent. Its not Remington R51 bad, but its a pretty lousy firearm. The trigger pull on most .380 autos is exceptionally long and gritty. This article was total BS. You must not even be able to read. I have a SCCY too. What a joke. IMHO it packs a great punch for a pistol that slips away in my pocket. OMG! they gladly took it back and said the Cobra .380 was selling like hotcakes. Pointing a gun will not stop a thug. Nope. Im not saying every single person who votes needs to leave a full, detailed review, but encouraging people to at least leave a couple pros/cons would be most helpful. I have SCCY CPX2 Best gun ever Just keep it clean 400 rounds down range 400 rounds on target Ill bet my life on my cpx2. This is the J-Frame for the masses. The reason the trigger pull is lighter is because it is a SA trigger versus the DA trigger on the original LCP. I shot the cpx-1 and the cpx-2and never had a problem with either. I bought one of the .380 Seecamps when they first came out. No problem for me but then I have fired well over 100,000 rounds in 50 years. customer service should you need it that transfers with the gun. Oh wow I finally got their awful website to workP3at is #1! After the 200 round break in if you have any, then yes you should be pissed. You have to use the recommened ammo in the manual. Go to some of the forums and you will seem many post and pictures from fans. Thats whats currently on my hip and I love it. You hold the slide back to engage the cocking. Overall, the trigger on the LCP II makes it infinitely easier to shoot than the original LCP. Id never heard of the site; wanted to check it out to see how much I want to buy the article at face value. 72 people have given the Arsenal Strike 1 a mediocre rating. There is a reason why this is Berettas top Pocket gun. More power to him I say. Yes, the LCP II is still a .380 pocket pistol and as a result is still snappy. And of course, they criticize all the brands that dont advertise with them. My PT 22 is surprisingly reliable. http://virtualchick.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/01/unicorn.jpg. I own expensive pistols and revolvers, as well as a SCCY CPX-2. This gun is selling better than ever years later. Did you ever lubricate the gun, or did you just load it and shoot it? This gun is budget-friendly and chambered substantially (9mm). I certainly wouldnt be happy. Not any more fun to shoot, but at least I dont need a damned pencil to take spent brass out of it. Id trust actual reviewers over internet voters. Do you really know anything about pocket guns? Its on the edge of what Id consider using for self-defense, but Id recommend trying to move up to 9mm if possible. TCP and P3AT triggers were clearly worlds better than it. How about some info on some of the pocket pistols that may be considered the best? Shoot to make the thug dead. Worked fine til the last shot on the second reload. Their Reviewers have alot of feed issues due to lack of knowledge of proper grip. Even your most expensive 1911s, Colts, S&W and Glocks will jam or miss fire from time to time. (Though they have better triggers than the early LCPs, thats not enough), You should try mine. I shoot a lot of pocket guns. No problem with the SCCY at all. Obvious, one writers bias, trying to get internet rookies to bash guns most have never shot nor even understand. The mag will spring out when done correctly. He talks about having to yank the Mag. Broke the ejector. My SCCY CPX-2 has been absolutely accurate with never a malfunction of any kind. Hellcat 380. You have not spoken to anyone that has something positive to say about the Pico? Actually, the KelTec P11 is the same size, came first and holds two more rounds. http://www.waltherarms.com/wp-content/uploads/ppk-left.jpg. Examples of popular small pocket .380 autos include the original Ruger LCP, Taurus TCP, Smith & Wesson Bodyguard .380, and the Kel-Tec P3-AT to name a few. The cobra looks very similar to a firearm my mother owns. So the recoil is stout. Ruger LCP Max 2. Actually if the SCCY is on here then the Mill Pro G2 should be also, and that gun is a trainwreck compared to the SCCY. All semi auto weapons will jam at one time or another, and dont feel the same in everyones hand.. Hence why Hipoints explode when high pressure rounds are put in them or dont feed reliably when hollowpoints are used. Never jammed on me or on my daughter who went to the range with me. A lot of those people who diss these guns are those that run hollowpoints or high pressure rounds. I broke the firing pin on the first day. Mine works, has worked, continues to work, and has never not gone bang. You can hire chinese brokers to buy likes on Fakebook, and twitter followers by the thousands. They know media though. Its teeny, accurate, and easy to handle. For those of you looking specifically for a concealed carry pistol, hold off on buying a Glock just yet. the problem with your rating site is that it is seriously flawed. I told him Im shooting the same Remington ammo in all of them (I dont use the reloads or Russian stuff). Really disappointed in how this was presented. Maybe so few were sold they didnt make the list. Springfield operator: 5.2 She has had limp wrist cycling problems with other semi-auto pistols in the past. I alone will take up the Masterpiece banner, carry it aloft, plant it on the nearest peak and proclaim, Get thee 6 extra recoil springs and thou shalt have a decent pistol for a year or more, even.. While larger .380 pistols such as the Walther PPK/S, Walther PK380, Bersa Thunder 380, and Glock 42 dont have this problem, the truly small pocket pistols such as the LCP and TCP most certainly do. Stovepiped and double fed left and right, and Kel-Tec didnt want to lift a finger without me footing the bill for shipping. Like others, I am a bit surprised by the poor showing of the Beretta. I used to have one. Its that bad. This list would have been more valid if it had included the KIMBER SOLO, This website is better than the comedy channel. Tiny, safety features, serious calibers, etc. These arent big enough vote pools anyway. You fire as soon as you pull and have aimed. lol Damon really? I dont see it. But I have no interest in any Keltec pistol-unlike several rifles. And they didnt offer to just replace the thing, which is what I would do rather than leaving a dissatisfied customer wholl then post a comment like this on the internet. According to our peers, here are the six worst pocketguns, from less awful to worstest. For 2022, the Roughneck will be available in a recoil-friendly .380 ACP. These are last resort concealment guns with a lot of punch in a small package. The gun works incredibly well if you use the recommend FMJ ammo as listed in the manual. The movie Gigli had the worst, lowest rating ever on IMDB, voted on by tens of thousands of people. You did NOT mention that the Pico has RE-STRIKE CAPAPIBILITY. The double 1911 also has ratings. Kahr makes a lot of pocket guns, and several of them rate really well. And surely have not shot one or very little. And a PPK has the solid feel of pure quality. It is designed as a personal defense arm not a target pistol or a plunker. Women need to be told about the woman in Birmingham who was being robbed and pulled out a gun. How is the P3AT above the middle of the list? If you are going to run a wisdom of crowds review site I think you really ought to take a note from them, because we ALL know the crowd can also be incredibly stupid, especially when hiding behind the anonymity of a keyboard. Its tight, even well after break-in. http://www.waltherarms.com/wp-content/uploads/ppk-right.jpg Jed Henson runs the handgun review and rating site gunsgunsguns.net. Recoil was worse on the 380 than the 9. The gun works. It makes my SR40C feel like a 9mm. It is not a pleasant gun to shoot, but a helluva lot worse on the receiving end. the Truth about Guns is one of the most biased groups around. Far better than any of the others gun you talk about on this rag of a story. The warranty cant be beat. I have 100s of rounds through both my kahrs with zero fails. The thing is about Cobras, hi points that people that call them junk have never actually researched the gun. Happy ending. Most often the issue is people dry firing, or using hollowpoints. Bought it brand new. Ruger LCP II .380 ($349) Painful to shoot, yes, but thats what you get when the gun barely weighs more than the bullet it fires. It is about 99% reliable, however, which is good enough to carry. Its manageable. In this review, we will cover the disadvantages of the .380 pistol that the LCP II sought to remedy, what makes the LCP II an improvement over the original LCP, and the uses for and specifications of the LCP II. . I had huge issues with a Kahr, so they will never get my money again. No it is not a light striker fired trigger. Seriously?). Most people who love the P3-AT just carry it but dont use it. I had an occasional ejection glitch in mine when I first got it, but the company paid to have it shipped back to them for adjustment, and the piece hasnt hiccupped a single time, since. To each his own . Top 5 .380 Pistols Our Top Pick Glock 42 .380 ACP Sportsmans Warehouse (Check Price) Palmetto State Armory (Check Price) Primary Arms (Check I trust the Colt, Kahr, and Rugers, but I would like more power. A local guy shot a home invader with a SCCY. Yes, Im sure theyre out there, but the odds youll score one of those unicorns remain low. You do that and you will find hipoints and cobras to work as they are intended. How so? Ive been fortunate enough to be able to shoot a big variety of different .380s. The best one, so far, that I have shot with the least amount of re You can buy 1911s now. 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